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Who is wes? don't you mean ek3.
and i agree with you. i will not claim that i would beat anybody on this board in a race, i will not claim that i am a better driver than anyone on this board, but my claim that i have been trying to make (as well as TG) I am not a bad driver simply because of my unfortunate luck. If there are any other non believers who still don't understand, i will gladly list my accidents and explain what happened in each incident, in fact, i might do that anyways, it makes for good reading.
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All I'm saying is where there is smoke there is fire...and that fire is more than likely from one of D.J.'s totalled vehicles...or Jason's new "bed"...
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I'd be interested in hearing about your accidents.
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hmmmm....
i think that everyone has made some valid points.
accidents do expose your driving ability... depending
on the circumstances. if you are involved in an
accident, that wasn't your fault, you cannot
be held responsible for that accident. if you
are in an accident (without another person)...
such as hydroplaning or some shit, again, its
not your fault.
tickets for traffic violations (not accidents)
do not show driving skill. tickets merely show
how well you conform to laws... a totally unrelated
field.
however...
i think its very important to show what we are
comparing. it seems to me that 'good driving'
can be associated to many variables:
<ul type="square">[*] people/animals[*] weather[*] road/ground conditions[*] law restrictions[/list]
these can be placed into 3 categories:
sentient/environmental/social
the question is -- does it take all 3 categories
into consideration when judging 'good driving'?
take jason's accident into account:
no one was near him on the road when the accident
occured. the weather/road conditions didn't apply.
law restrictions? hmmmmm.... i dunno.
what he failed in was the first category... being
that he, himself, was tired and therefore,
the only one affected in the accident.
another scenario could be that a person (like
with hanny) could have several passengers,
regardless of weather/road conditions... and
drive from point A to point B as 'recklessly'
as possible without causing harm or injury to
himself or others. he would be disregarding
the last category while keeping in check the
first two. does that make him a bad driver?
so i think that it is important to figure out
what categories (or all) make for 'good driving'.
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I make for good driving. Bottom line.
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By the request of Jason, i will list my accidents with minimal detail.
Accident 1:
1989 Pontiac Grand AM - While stopped at red light of North Hills and JFK, was rear-ended, minor damage to trunk.
Accident 2:
1989 Pontiac Grand AM - After blowing engine during race down I-630 to I-30, and then onto I-40 at speeds exceeding 100 miles an hour, I blew my engine and pulled to the side of the road right in front of the Lakewood exit. While waiting at my house (after my dad picked us up) a drunk driver rear-ended my vehicle completely totalling it.
Accident 3:
1986 Dodge Caravan - While merging over 3 lanes on to get onto I-30 from I-40 there at the Lakewood exit. A semi got too close to me and clipped my rear end causing little damage, partly which was simply a broken tail light.
Side-note - The reason for not continuing driving the Caravan was that one morning when my dad went to start the thing, a small electrical fire started under the hood. At the point, we decided to sell it for scrap.
Accident 4
1991 Pontiac Bonneville - While pulling out of a parking lot downtown (exact address not sure of) I failed to see a speeding vehicle around a number of parked cars and pulled out in front of her. This totalled my car, and I was in fact ticketed for this accident (I still claim she was doubling the speed limit, and the cars parked on the street were illegally parked)
Accident 5
1996 GMC Sierra - This occurred nearly 2 years after my last accident, and I had just made my last payment the week before. On the way to Magnolia going down I-30 through Benton during fairly heavy traffic, a police officer decided to pull out and cut off traffic. This caused a huge break check (difficult to go from a smooth 70 to 0 in a short time). the police officer was able to not get hit, where as the vehicle in front of me hit the car in front of him, i hit the car in front of me, and the car behind me hit me. This once again totalled my vehicle.
Accident 6:
1997 Chevrolet Tahoe - While returning on a brief vacation to Branson, MO (the night of the Kid Rock concert here in Little Rock, I know this because Wes would not come get me because he was enjoying himself) I was coming down through Conway about to get on I-40. It was nighttime and the weather conditions were rainy. After coming to a stop at the stop light, i looked in my rear view mirror only to see 2 headlights from an old Ford F-350. He decided not to stop, he hit me at about 45 miles an hour, i hit the car in front of me, and they hit the car in front of them. Somehow no one received a ticket, my truck got totalled, the guy didn't have insurance, and i got the shaft again. As a side note, the ford had to be hauled off on a tow truck. I recieved just as much punishment on both of my bumpers as he did, and I drove home. More reason to buy Chevy.
That is a summary of my accident report. As of right now, I have not totalled the 97 Chevy Tahoe I am driving now, although i would not mind if someone would total it, because I would get a nice settlement out of it, and i would be able to get a car that doens't have so many battery problems.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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shatzy gives it 6 months
any takers?
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Compare us again and you'll die bitch!
*makes the "i'll slit your throat" pirate motion*
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Also.. on another point, I agree that Jasons racing experiance has made him a better driver. I can verify that with my own racing experiances. But I would have to say, I'm a better driver than Jason, on the fact that I've never had an accident. And yes, EVERYONE that has EVER ridden with me, has grabbed the "oh shit" handle at one point in time or another. If it's when i'm doing 75 down a windey gravel road, or when i'm doing 85 and passin people like a mad man on a two lane.. it doesn't matter! But to me, I'm always in control... when I have all 4 tires slidin sideways around a gravel corner, you'll see me, just sittin there, one hand on the wheel, one hand on my gearshifter, ready to chirp gears and get the hell outta that corner!
Aggressive to the MAX!
I think I could take Jason, on, and off-road. [img]wink.gif[/img]
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2 Months...he is already having problems with it...only a matter of time...
